Some of you may think that for ethical, legal, and moral reasons, shipping Sam Winchester with his brother is… yeah. (And to be fair, that is a rational response. I am not going to try to take that away from anyone.)

But it gets… worse.

As much as I try not to judge people for their pairings, what they do, and how they think of and about fandom, this is where I draw the line as someone who does not ship either of these things — on a personal level, like, please do not talk to me about either of these things, but especially do not talk to me about the last one if that makes any sense. This is the one thing in this fandom that I can not stand hearing about…

There is what is called weec*st, and I am censoring it for a reason.

It involves shipping Sam and Dean Winchester when they are at varying ages below the age of consent.

Sometimes markedly below.

Some of the most vocal w*ncest shippers are also unashamed shippers of this ship as well, and they are quite vocal about it. Therein lies the actual problem, too. Hellers (people who ship Castiel and Dean Winchester who have reclaimed use of the term “Destiheller”, shortening it) are nowhere near as vocal about their preferred ship even though they may share things related to it on various social media sites. They just don’t get in your face demanding that you prefer it, or even give it the time of day. Most of the Hellers that I have encountered abide by the “live and let live” philosophy, which I can’t say that I don’t agree with.

I just can’t help but wish that this particular part of the fandom weren’t so vocal and as in your face about it.

If you seriously have to ask “is *ncest legal in my state or country” though, that’s where the problems start.

One of my posts reminded me that I wanted to address a few more of the most prevalent, popular ships in the Supernatural fandom. (I’ve made it clear enough that I am an enthusiastic shipper of Castiel and Dean Winchester, also known as Deancas or Destiel, and self-identify as a Heller, which used to be a derogatory term for those who ship this pairing until they reclaimed it.) I’ve made some mention to those who ship w*ncest — Sam and Dean Winchester, brothers — and focus on how those who ship this… interact with those on social media, almost always to their detriment though they don’t seem to care how they come off.

Not minding how this is a “dark pairing” (usually relegated to corners of the web where those who also ship this pairing can more freely discuss it, not in the open) and not getting into the ethical, legal, and moral implications of this pairing — some of them have actually asked which of the United States incest is legal in for the… sake of this pairing, and that’s all I am going to say about that particular quote, I swear — those who ship w*ncest now seem to be more “in your face” about it than those who ship dark pairings usually are, proud of their pairing, flaunting it on social media… particularly in their Twitter bios. During an engagement with someone who ships w*ncest, they actually told me that they wanted to DM (direct message) my children and recommend rated w*ncest fanfic to them. This is not something that you say to someone under normal circumstances. Or at all, really. First of all, I limit how my children use the Internet — I don’t allow them to have social media accounts of their own, especially on sites that require the use of their legal names. One of my sons is old enough to use Facebook (writing that makes me feel a bit old, but anyway). Truth be told, neither of them are interested in social media at all and are more than content being allowed to use YouTube and YouTube Kids with me monitoring the videos that they watch on those apps.

That brings me right around to another point, though — w*ncest shippers have, at least in the past, gloated about how they’ve told their children about this pairing and tried to get them “in on it”. Not minding the ethical, legal, and moral implications of this again, what I do in the fandoms that I am involved in is my business, and my business it will stay. I haven’t gotten either one of my kids “into” Supernatural, even though one of them has watched a few episodes with me and ardently flips through my copy of the crew picture book. I don’t feel like I will ever share “that part of my life” with my kids, namely because it is not relevant to them at all. I’m not going to make them like Supernatural just because I like it. If they ever want to join a fandom of their own, I suppose we’ll talk about it, but at the ages they are right now and the stages of their lives they’re in, they don’t seem interested in that sort of thing, and their lack of interest doesn’t bother me.

Basically, a lot of w*ncest shippers are in your face about how superior they feel their pairing is to other pairings in the Supernatural universe, and they need to respect people in general — especially those who do not feel the same way as them — and be not… nearly in your face as they tend to get. That would be nice.

This is also going to be the first part of a two-part entry since this has gotten kind of long at this point, heh.

Their family came down with COVID-19 following Gen and Jared jetsetting maskless in Italy.

This could completely have been avoided, but they didn’t even wear masks in all of the pictures they took of them having as much fun in Italy as they did… well, until they came down with COVID-19. Are you kidding?!

Every time I end a subject with “y’all” on here we appear to go on a wild ride, so buckle up.

There are some people who are, for lack of a better way to put it, “against” the Hellers (they ship w*ncest, or worse, which I will write a separate post about), and their interactions with Hellers make it extremely clear. Some of them seek Hellers out on social media to let them know how they feel about their preferred ship — Castiel and Dean Winchester — and some of them do not let up interacting with Hellers when Hellers continually state that they do not want to be interacted with in such a manner and that they would like the conversation to end. That, and these antis (which I’m going to call them until I find a better way to describe them) circulate block lists amongst themselves of Hellers, which sometimes hilariously results in people being blocked, finding out that they were blocked, and having never interacted with the person in question.

If someone states that they wish not to be interacted with, be a decent human being and respect it.

And although I can’t believe that I actually have to state this, gleaning someone’s social media profile does not mean that you intimately know them, so please stop behaving as though scrolling through their Twitter timeline means that you know them on a deeply personal level. (Also, an anti decided to lie to Twitter and state that I had posted self-harm or suicidal content on my Twitter timeline when I had done no such thing. Twitter went through my timeline and confirmed that no such content was there. So on top of not leaving you alone when you repeatedly ask them to, they lie. Given the nature of this fandom, this is unsurprising.)